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HEAVEN AND HELL – DR SWEDENBORG – IN RESPECT TO HIS INTERIORS, EVERY MAN IS A SPIRIT

this is the opening for this new chapter:

IT IS NOT THE BODY THAT HINKS, BUT THE SOUL, WHICH IS SPIRITUAL!
wow! what  an opening salvo!!!!!
IT ISNOT THE BODY THAT THINKS, BUT THE SOUL, WHICH OF COURSE IS SPIRITUAL!
so it apparent we humans, dont know a DAMN THING about OURSELVES!
                                 WE ARE BABES IN THE WOODS!
We are also “puppets”  –    our educational system is a PUPPET SYSTEM!
who is willing to challenge that statement?  NO ONE OF COURSE SINCE WE
HAVE BEEN INDOCTRINATED INTO BELIEVING WE KNOW NOTHING UNLESS WE GOT EDUCATED.
LIKE MY EXWIFE SAID TO ME WHEN I MADE WHAT SHE THOUGHT WAS A PROFOUND STATEMENT;  WHERE DID YOU READ THAT?  WHOSE STATEMENT WS THAT, WHO ARE YOU QUOTING FROM.

is replied, noone!  its my thoughtt noone else’s thought than my thought, that upset my exwife terribly, she got angry when I told her that “what i said could
come from me, and me alonge!
YOU ARE ONLY A STOREKEEPER WHAT WOULD YOU “KNOW” ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST TOLD ME?
when is said ITS A FREE COUNTRY ISNT IT, SHE SAID NO IT ISNT A FREE COUNTRY AND SHE WAS RIGHT ON TARGET
WE ARE TAUGHT BY “OUR SOCALLED “BETTERS” WHAT TO THNK ABOUT, WE OURSELVES UNLESS “TAUGHT” KNOW NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL!  AGAIN SHE WAS RIGHT SINCE –  SHE WAS STATING A “FACT OF LIFE” WHICH SAID:
            EDUCATED PEOPLE ARE MEANT TO EDUCATE  PEOPLE!
AND SINCE I WAS NOT EDUCATED I HAD NO RIGHT TO PUT IN MY “OWN TWO CENTS  –  I WAS NOT QUALIFIED TO DO SO –  SO MUST KEEP MY
                                    MUST KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT!
SO IN TIME WHAT DID I DO  –  A GOT A STRING OF CERTIFICATIONS ALONG                               WITH A PH D  STATUS
DID I BUY INTO THEIR CHARADE?????????  OF  COURSE NOT!
FOR AN UNEDUCAATED PERSON I WROTE OVER 1500 ESSAYS, WHRE DID THAT COME FROM?  FROM HARVARD, YALE ETC.? OF COURSE NOT
IT CAME FROM THE “REAL SOURCE” NOT THE PHONY SOURCES OUT THERE PRETENDING TO BE OUR SOCALLED MENTORS, TEACHERS>
OF COURSE, I AM NOT INDICTING THE WHOLE SYSTEM SINCE GOOD UPRIGHT PEOPLE DO COMMENDABLE WORK IN OUR EDUCAATIONAL PROCESSES.
BUT I CAN INDICT THE SYSTEM PER SE SINCE FOR ME IT IS CORRUPT; IN BED WITH THE “EVIL” FORCES IN OUR UNIVERSE, HOW/WHY THAT IS FOR OTHERS TO INVESTIGATE NOT ME!
WE ARE NOW PROGRESSING IN OUR “TRUE” UNDERSTANDING NOT THE PHONY “REASON, LOGIC, INTELLECT” SYSTEM THAT PERVADES. OUR WORLD TODAY.

HEAVEN AND HELL – DR SWEDENBORG – THE WORLD OF SPIRITS

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SHEER NONSENSE

Date: Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: SHEER NONSENSE
To: maurice rothman

Obviously it’s infantile. But more telling “It is the blind, leading the blind”. Jose Luis

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On Saturday, July 8, 2017 Rothman, Maurice  wrote:

Hi  Josse,

from my perspective being involved with the mystics of life, what’s happening
today in the world/politics is SHEER NONSENSE.
children playing with “marbles” thinking that “marbles” is what its all about!
marbles being of course a “repressentative for what we consideer, diplomacy and other words giving “credibility to “sheer nonsense.
of course we take ‘what we believe to be “real”  REAL; when in “truth” it is “only a PASSING FANCY as they say.
we are people playing “with toys” believing “its the real thing”!!!!!!!
history proves “without question the “fact” that “facts are not really facts,
since a “fact as understood can “never change”  –   and  things of course
ALWAYS CHANGE  – something STINKS IN DENMARK???????????????
so we socalled “adults; socalled i “intelligensia”  –  have a lot to learn,
and major lesson of course is:
                               CHANGE IS THE ONLY CONSTANT
and what does that mean?  it means that there CANNOT BE ANY FACTS, as we understand “facts to be”
there is a “screw loos somewhere, somehow, and Trump iis NOT THE ONLY SCREW BALL OUT THERE, –  HE HAS LOADS OF ADHERENTS!
so what is the “lesson learned” if there is a lesson “to be llearned?
the lesson to be learned of course is  to avoid the PITFALLS- along the LESSON PATHWAY  –  but then, WISDOM is needed to avoid these pitfalls.
and that of course takes WISDOM, and WISDOM is not readily available since
its NOT HANDED OUT TO EVERY  TOM DICK, HARRY its a scarce commodity to say the least.
so what’s to be?  what’s to be/  what/s to be???????????????????????
                                     N O T H I N G   OF   C O U R S E!
FUMBLE, TUMBLE, AND ALL THAT GOES WITH IT – ENSUES BIGTIME!
SINCE  MANKIND IS UNABLE TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE!
ITS ALL LEFT UP TO THE MYSTICM OF LIFE ITSELF WHICH OF COURSE
                          ELIMINATES  REASON – LOGIC  -INTELLECT
Justifiably of course since “mankindd has never emerged out of the ignorance’the besets   –    intricacies of life itself   –   its called  “ignorance”
if Reason, Logic and Intellect “could do “it”-  there would not be a quandary!
                                   THE FACT IS WE ARE IN A MESS!
wjem ,MYSTICiZM  enters the picture, the ego powers of “reason,logic, etc”
                                 BECOME VOIC OF LIFE ITSELF!

DR SWEDENBORG

From: Rothman, Maurice
Date: Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: DR SWEDENBORG
To: Jose Luiz

I agree.
it will be interesting to find out what doctor swedenborg  says concerning the Hell aspects of will, since the astral world of “spirits, demons etc” rule that world!
its called the “middle world” since its located between earth and heaven !
and for some reason, “the world-at-large” knows little of this world??????????????
can understanding  BE UNDERSTANDING, if the middle astral world, is neglected
and not in the “equation”
I am saying that from my experience, the three kings (reason,logic,intellect_ has NOT
taken into consideration the middle world, why?
in fact if I am not mistaken, for reason,logic,intellect, the middle world is a “fraud” does not exist?
I of course  for one, knows it exists since I have seen it “in operaton” all of my life!
despite what “our socalled betters” say otherwise!
my book emphasis it, in its own way, in fact it goes beyond that world, and enters into the higher worlds with PROOF of its MAGICAL MYSTICAL HEALINGS.
I dont expect “wills” reading my book, to acknowledge anything  of my experiences since
their WILL dominates what they want to “believe in”; not otherwisse!
PEOPLE CANT AND DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN BE  “TAKEN OVER” BY  SATANIC SPIRITS FROM “ANOTHER WORLD” ITS TOO FAR AFIELD FROM WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TAUGHT BY OUR SOCALLED “BETTERS”
of course our socalled etters are our “more learned brotherin” we bow down to their
socalled “erudition”  shamans, wiitch doctors?  they exist?
educataed people do not believe in “stuff like this” even if its true!  If they did they
would be ostracized bigtime!
People are too educated nowadays to believe in that trash; only primitives believe that.
what hapens to misguided beliefs/understanding; as mentioned above?
Dr. Swedenborg in his day was ostracized of course  –  demeaned of course, by
whom?  Acadamia of course who else felt threatened?
how my book is received by “ordinary people” most likely will receive the “same fate”
as to what happened by Dr. Swedenborg and other iconoclasts like him.
WHY SUPPORT YOUR ENEMY I.E. LIKE TRUMP WHO ALSO IS OUR ENEMY SINCE HIS MIND SET IT NO DIFFERENT THAN A PUTIN WHO IS AN ACKNOWLEDGED MURDERER – AS HE CLIMBED UP THE RUNGS OF ASSASINATIONS1.
HE IS NO BETTER THAN ANY OLD TIME RACKETEER’S OF CHICAGO AND NEW YORK BACK IN THE ROARING TWENTIES; NOWADAYS THEY DONT USE GUNS
ANY LONGER ONLY FOR POLITICAL ASSASINATIONS FOR THE KGB OR FOR OTHER MURDERING ORGANIZATION LIKE OUR CIA ETC.
TRUMP IS “AT HOME” WITH THESE MURDERING ORGANIZATIONS; SINCE HE IS ONE OF THEM BY “HEART” BEING A PUPPET OF THE ASTRAL SATANIC WORLD.
YOU DONT HEAR OR READ ANYTHING, OR EVEN FIND JUST ONE PROFESSIONAL ESPECIALLY IN PSYCHIATRY THAT MENTIONS THE WORLD “SATANIC” WHY?
THEY DONT BELIEVE A WORD THAT I AM WRITING, THAT’S WHY?
they are just as deaf, dumb and blind as all of their fellow professionals to ADMIT
that this middle world exists  –  if they did, they would automatically INDICT themsselves
of course and what professional would do that?
                                        N  O  N  E     OF     C   O  U  R  S  E
MY BOOK INDICTS , POINTS THE FINGER ON WHY DONALD TRUMP LOST IT!
THAT IS, IF HE EVER HAD IT; THAT IS DOUBTFUL OF COURSE BIG TIME ??????
YOUR FRIEND, ALWAYS,
MAURICE
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:03 AM,  wrote:

Hi, Maurice

How can one act (WILL) without awareness or understanding?
Well, when people emulate the basic nature of animals (EGO),
then WILL is unfocused, arbitrary and invariably noxious to one
self and/or to society; when the human being uses awareness
and understanding–gathered throug h the intuitive process, acquired
knowledge and/or experience–W ILL can be positive, constructive and
transcendental. It all depends on the physical, environmental and/or
emotional state of the individual.
The human animal wants to act, as it’s born with WILL. How it behaves
and acts depends on the above statement.
Jose Luis
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—–Original Message—–
From: Rothman, Maurice \
To: Jose Luiz
Sent: Mon, Jul 10, 2017 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: DR SWEDENBORG

Hi Jose,

understanding’a  “understanding”  +  +  wisdom ++ ”  =+ WILL  –
will in general as “understood ??????????????” is “will-full” full of will.
its appaarent that man’s understanding of the word “will” – is misunderstood  –
for many iats “connotaton has nothing in common with “understanding” i.e.
will-ful-ness etc.   Will is a very “potent power PP” and is willfully abused
by egos of course!
why is it according to the doctor that “understanding cannot “stand” on its own
two feet, without the need for “a will”????????????????????????? ?????
reason  logic   intellect = understanding!  –   why need the “will”?????????????
the will works on many levels of consciousness  –   unbeknown by humanit y,
why>
there is no need for will when the “ego is doing its things”  EGO = WILL!
so instead of “will” we use our “ego”  to “define the word will” – and our ego
is supported by “false beliefs”  –
and false beliefs back up their assertions with “reason llogic, intellect”
end result  –   WILL FULL NESS!
AS SAID FALSE BELIEFS NEED THE FAMOUS THREE: reason,logic,intellect
which “influences their ego will  –  which of course results in electing Donald
Trump president of the USA!
SCIENCE FOUND TO BE FALSE –  is a perfect example of what I just said!
your friend always,\
mauarice
On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 6:45 PM,  wrote:

Hi, Maurice
Awareness = Understanding = WILL
Jose Luis
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On Saturday, July 8, 2017 Rothman, Maurice  wrote:

hI JOSE,

I am now in the tail end the last part of the book Heaven and Hell, and
the doctor talks about WILL  –  how that works with the word Under-
standing.
in the past we had differences, my view and your view of how will operates with understanding.  I dont recall “exactly” what I said, I know we  had differences of opinions.
it appears that the doctor’s belief –  is more comprehensive  – to my point of view.
the last part of the book deals exclusively with HELL; this should be “real interesting” since the doctor is pretty “comprehensive in his views”
I of course agree with his beliefs  –  he is more comprehensive than I; and besides he was a Genius; I am not a genius.
hope everything is well with you,  I am still having trouble with my skin, its taking a long time, but it will be defeated, I have no doubt about that.
I will be staying four months with my son in India next year, avoiding the winter months.
your friend, always,
maurice
PS. when I am thru with the book: i intend to devote my writing to my Health letter, everthing is in readiness for it  – also looking forward to it.
the Rags to Riches story will be put into my Book, within a few months; the person doing that, cant do it now.
People have been asking “how did it happen” ????????????????
and why was it “mystic”?    It was mystic because itt was “portended”
two years before “it” happened; I talk aabout it in my Rags to Riches
sstory.  My son Richard tried to talk me out of writing this story; he thought
that  people “might think” that “it was just a “come on” as they say!
in that respect, he was right, and I agreed with him in this respect.
 But then Mysticym to be mysticym doesnt need any “hype” since it does
not “need” hype   – the egoworld needs help, mysticm does not have\anything in common with our world, our ego world of course! The ego Trump world
needs falsehoods to support itself  –  Dr. Dyer book,  EXCUSES BEGONE
says it all!-  – excuses are falsehoods of courrse!

HEAVEN AND HELL – DR SWEDENBORG – THE WORLD OF SPIRITS.

HEAVEN AND HELL DR SWEDENBORG WHAT THE WORLD OF SPIRITS IS?

we are now getting down to “brass tacks”   as they say.

the “brass taks” is the “state of heaven in man “is the conjunction of good and truth in him”  in other words  –  ignorance “must finally be addressed” and what “s” ignorance? and why is it to pervasive in our world where “free people” opt to put in a position of power a first class DEGENERATE  –  donald trump is a first class degenerate according to his “rap sheet” which has been published  throughout the known world.
every “moral code” was attempted to be broken by mr donald trump  –  according to what I have read  –  of course, this was completely “overlooked” by the people that “voted for him”  –
DID THE GERMANS “NOT” VOTE FOR ADOLPH HITLER?  OF COURSE THEY DID AND WHAT HAPPENED?
can people be trusted?  of course not!  so what’s to be?
what’s to be is the “lessons that must be learned by reading the “wowrks” of dr swedenborg – thru my interpretations of his main work,  Heaven and Hell.
we are now in the Hell aspect of the book where people like donald trump’s immorality is “put on the grill”-  along  with his followers of course  –  their ego put mr trump in office; he promises of course; promises is ego of course –
THEY BOUGHT HIS IMMORALITY/LIES/PROMISES etc. like any damn fool would do of course  –    they are now kidding their ass for voting for him!
THEY DESERVE WHAT THEY GOT!  THEY GOT A TRUMP!
again, “the state of heaven in man is the CONJUNCTION OF GOOD AND TRUTH IN HIM: AND THE sstate of hell is the conjunction is hell in hi.m.
so to make it simple:  “whenever good in a man-spirit is “conjoined” with falsity he comes into hell, becassse that conjunction is HELL IN HIM.

good and truth go together; and understanding and the will go together.
how does understanding and the will, being the same thing as good and truth, being in conjunction  that IS EFFECTED IN THE WORLD OF SPIRITS.
PEOPLE LIKE TRUMP MUST PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE FOLLOWING WORDS:
good and truth go together , like understanding and will go together.
there cannot be good without truth and truth without good, no chance!
the understandign receives truth and is formed out of them, and the will receives goods and is formed oiut of them.
therefor whatever a man understans and thinks form his understanding he calls true, and whaatever a man wills and thinks from is will he calls good.
from  THIS UNDERSTANDING MAN CAN THINK AND THUS PERCEIVE
 BOT WHAT IS true and what is good; and et he thinks what is true and good from the will “only” when he wills it and does it.!
 
when he wills it and from willing does it it is both in his understand and in his will,  consequently  in the man.  For neither the understanding alone nor the will alone makes the man, but the understanding and will together; therefore whatever is in both is in the man, and is appropriated to him.
 
That which is in the understanding alone   is in man and yet NOT really in him; it is only a thing of his memory, or a matter of knowledge in his memory about which he can think when in company with others and outside of himsself, but not in himself; that is, about which he can speak and reason, and can simulatae affections and gestures that are in accord with it.
 
that is quite a paragraph.  It gives “credence to my beliefs that dealt with what this paragraph is all about.
 
it corroboraated as said “my belief” in this regard  – upheld it of course
when at times,  the subject had to be addressed.
 
it again objectified my “belief”  –  until this very moment; it was only a belief, but with what i just read, it goes far beyond “just belief”
 
I had this contention with a good friend of mine years ago  –  until now
i did not have “proof of my belief” the doctor supplied that proof righ this moment in time.  wow!
this ability to think from the undderstanding and NOT at the same time from the WILL is provided that man may be capable of being reformed, for reformation is effected by “means of truths, and truths pertain to the understanding, as said.
for in respect to his will MAN IS BORN INTO EVERY EVIL, and therefore of himself wills good TO NO ONE BUT HIMSELF; and one who wills  good to himself alone DELIGHTS IN THE MISFORTUNES THAT BEFALL ANOTHER< ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY TEND TO HIS OWN ADVANTAGE;
for in respect to his will man is born INTO EVERY EVIL, therefore good to himselfe alone delights in the misfortunes that befall another, especially when they tend to his own advantage; for his wish is to divert to  himslef,  the gods of all others, whether honors or riches,, and so far as he succeeds in this he inwardly rejoices.
 
to the end, ths will of man may be corrected and reformed, an ability to think truths with his understanding, and to speak them and do them.
 
take this to heart:  UNTIL MAN IS SUCH ATHAT HE WILLS TRUTHS AND DOES THEM FROM HIMSELF, THAT IS, FROM THE HEART, HE IS NOT ABLE TO THINK TRUTHS FROM HIS WILL
 
WHEN HE BECOMES SUCH, WHATEVER HE THINKS FROM HIS UNDERSTANDING BELONGS TO HIS FAITH, AND WHATEVER HE THINKS FROM HIS WILL BELONGS TO HIS LOVE; AND IN CONSEQUENCE HIS FAITH AND HIS LOVE, LIKE HIS UNDERSTANDING AND HIS WILL, ARE CONJOINE IN “HIM”.
 
ON THE OTHER HAND, JUST TO THE EXTENT THAT THE FALSITIES OF THE UNDERSTANDING AND THE EVILS OF THE WILL ARE “CONJOINED MAN HAS HELL IN HIMSSELF” SINCE THE CONJUNCTION OF FALSITY AND EVIL IS HELL.
 
TO THE EXTENT THAT THE FALSITIES OF THE UNDERSTANDING AND THE EVILS OF THE WILL ARE CONJOINED MAN HAS “HELL IN HIMSSELF,” SINCE THE CONJUNCTION OF FALSITY AND EVIL IN HELL.
 
BUT SO LONG AS THE TRUTHS OF THE UNDERSTANDING AND THE GOODS OF THE WILL ARE “NOT” CONJOINED MAN IS IN AN INTERMEDIATE STATE.
 
AT THE PRESENT TIME NEARLY EVERYONE IS IN AN INTERMEDIATE STATE.
 
NEARLY EVERYONE IS IN SUCH A STATE THAT HE HAS “SOME KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTHS, AND FROM HIS KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING GIVES “SOME THOUIGHT TO THEM, AND CONFORMS TO THEM EITHER MUCH OR LITTLE OR NOT AT ALL, OR ACTS CONTRARY TO THEM FROM A LOVE OF EVIL AND CONSEQUENT FALSE BELIEF.
 
SETHS BOOK, NATURE OF PERSONAL REALITY DEALS EXCLUSIVELY WITH FALSE BELIEFS  –  IT IS FREE TO ALL; ITS ON MY BLOG.
 
TO BE CONTINUED
 
MAURICE